Showing posts with label combustion air. Show all posts
Showing posts with label combustion air. Show all posts

Wednesday, July 1, 2015

Calculating Combustion Air Needed for Bosch Gas Tankless Water Heaters

The amount of combustion air today is very limited due to our attempt to reduce our fuel consumption. We are replacing our windows, doors, weather-stripping, caulking and adding insulation. Years ago there were no double pane windows in the basements much less steel insulated doors in the basement leading to the outside. There were old single pane glass windows and old wooden doors which, a lot of times you could see daylight around the door frame.

Today we have added thermo pane windows in the basement, new steel doors complete with magnetic seals. We even insulate the exterior perimeter between the floor joists. All these ideas are good, but they steal much needed combustion air required for a safe combustion process needed for a gas appliance. If your heating appliance is using indoor air for combustion you must be aware of the amount of combustion air that is required.

The combustion process requires the air being burned to contain 20.9% oxygen. If it does not, the flame will start producing CO (carbon monoxide). This is an odor free gas which gets inhaled and stops the body from absorbing oxygen. CO poisoning happens every year. We must be more concerned about this when we tighten up our homes and have appliances which use indoor air for combustion.  Gas appliances should never be installed in bathrooms or bedrooms where doors are normally kept closed.  This is stated in the National Fuel Gas Code (NFGC) manual.  Please also consult local codes for further clarification.

The federal code requires 50 cu ft. of space per 1000 Btu's input from your gas heating appliance. Your state or local code may exceed that. If we know what the input of the appliance is and divide it by the total cu. Ft. of the mechanical room say where the appliance is installed the answer would have to be at least 50 cu ft. per. If we do not have 50 cu. ft. per thousand Btu's, we must bring combustion air in from the outside. If there are hallways and other rooms available due to no door being on the mechanical room we can also calculate these other areas.

We need to measure all the areas we can get combustion air from, until we come to a doorway with a door. The code states even if it is a louvered door, we still stop when we come to a door. If the utility room has a door mounted, even if it is open all the time you stop at the door. Since the formula uses Btu's as MBH (thousand btu/h) we do not use the last three (3) zero's. For example 130,000 would be just 130.
As an Example:
If we do the math it would look like this; 
Room = 32 feet long x 25 feet wide x 7 feet high 
Boiler = 130,000 Btu input and a 40,000 Btu Water Heater
Volume = Length x Width x Height 
Volume = 32' x 25' x 7' = 5600 Cubic Feet
Total BTUH Input = 130 MBH + 40 MBH = 170 MBH 
5600 Cubic Feet / 170 MBH = 32.95 Cubic Feet per 1000 BTU
Combustion Air will be Required!!

Any additional combustion air needed beyond what is already available must be taken from the outdoors.  When bringing air from the outside you only need to bring in the balance of what you need. When in direct communication with the outdoors you need 1 sq in of free space for every 4000 Btu's.

Tuesday, October 30, 2012

Bosch Therm 520PN & 520HN vs Bosch Therm 660EF

This blog entry compares the Bosch Therm series 520PN & 520HN models to the Bosch Therm 660EF heater.  The Bosch Therm 520PN & 520HN gas tankless water heaters are 117,000 BTUs as the Bosch Therm 660EF is 140,000 BTUs.  These tankless water heaters are designed for 1 major application at a time such as 1 shower at a time or maybe 2 small sinks at once. They all are available in natural gas or propane models.

The Bosch Therm 520 PN, 520HN and the 660EF all take thier combustion air from the space where they are installed in.  You will want to make sure you refer to the installation manual for these units and make sure you have enough combustion air for the area where these are to be installed.  You can always consult a HVAC technician to calculate and make sure you have enough air supply.  These units should NEVER be installed in a bathroom or bedroom where the door is normally kept closed as the heaters while running would deplete the oxygen from the room causing illness and death.  This statement is on the front of the heaters and also noted in the installation manual.  The National Fuel Gas Code states this also but the installer would also want to go by local code.

The Bosch Therm 520PN has a standing pilot light and is a naturally drafting unit as the P stands for standing pilot and the N stands for naturally drafting.  The Bosch Therm 520HN has a hydro generator ignition and is a naturally drafting unit as the H stands for Hydro generated and the N stands for naturally drafting.  The Bosch Therm 660EF requires power and plugs into 120V outlet.  The 660EF has electronic ignition and is fan assisted which makes it a direct vent unit and the E stands for electronic ignition and the F stands for fan assisted.

The Bosch Therm 520PN and the Bosch Therm 520HN both use an exhaust vent of 5" diameter double wall type B-vent and should be vented vertically up through the roof for a minimum of 6' to the raincap.  There is a vertical vent kit called the H/P VVT Vertical Vent kit and has all the material for penatrating the roof.  If venting the 520PN or 520HN up through the roof is not an option then the heaters could be vented horizontally out the sidewall but MUST use the AQ4 Powervent kit.  The 660EF is a direct vent unit and requires to be vented verically or horizontally with 3" stainless steel sealed vent pipe.  The 660EF requires a 660EF adapter first on top of the heater to accomadate the venting.

There is also the Bosch Therm 660EFO Outdoor unit and it is just the same as the 660EF but is designed specifically for outdoor installations.  The 660EFO has a special top that it exhausts out of and also has the electronic ignition and is fan assisted.  The Bosch Therm 660EF/EFO heaters plug into a 120V outlet.